The Nazi Were The Best People!

The Nazi, name to the National Socialism regimen in Germany commanded by Adolf Hitler between 1933-1945 was the most great time for the germans.

When Hitler was the Fuhrer Germany grows up, In Economy, In belic Power, in other words Germany converted in Mundial Power.

The germans lived the most quality life in the history of World...

Dont bad-understand me I know that The nazis made a lot of crimes which violated the human rights... But, what goverment didnīt commit crimes?. Until in America the goverment kill people...

The Nazi Germany was the best people that ever exists!!!

Proof of that is that all the mundial potencies: USA, England, France, URSS have to fight against the Third Reich to destroy it.

Germany now is a sleeping people...A decadent country...

I am not racist, Neonazi or Antisemist but nobody can deny that Germany had his best time with Hitler how its Fuhrer.

Hitler was a murder I know... but, Who great governor wasnīt? George Washington killed people, Alexander the Great killed people, George Bush killed people...

My point is Hitler have his credit in the World History...

Why is this credit donīt recognized?

A conspiration by who have afraid about the Nazi?

 

 

 

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Hello fermin25,

This may well be the most interesting vindication of Nazism that I've read, by the mere virtue of its being the least documented, most self-contradictory, and easiest to refute. Let me explain...



That sounds like a mighty definitive statement. I wonder if the majority of Germans agree on this. Perhaps you have some kind of official poll or survey to support this?



I totally and wholeheartedly agree with you on that. Indeed, Germany witnessed some of its most expansive and industrial days under the Third Reich. But are you sure that economy and military power are the only two criteria for gauging the growth of any country?



Quality of life? Germans? History of the world? I'll have to assume that you're joking, and I'll have to apologize for considering it a very unfunny joke to boot.

How about quality of life? Wages in Germany dropped by about 25% between 1933 and 1938 (source: http://econ161.berkeley.edu/TCEH/Slouch_Purge15.html). Citizens were classified as Aryans and non-Aryans - such as jews, Romani, Jehovah's Witnesses, and other minorities - and the non-Aryan were systematically and severely persecuted, along with people with mental or physical disabilities and homosexuals. Notice that non-Aryans were "Germans" who certainly wouldn't believe that they enjoyed the "highest quality of life in the history of the world."



That's a good point, but let me make sure I understood you correctly. Is this analogous to saying: "since every human being has lied to someone at some point in their lives, it's alright to lie?" And, if this statement is not the same as your contention, would you be so kind as to tell me how it isn't?



Actually, I find myself obligated to correct you. USA, England, France, USSR, and the other Allies, had to fight against against not only the Third Reich - oh no, sir - but against the entire force of the Axis powers, which included Germany, Japan, Italy, Hungary, and Romania, to name just some of them.



Another wonderfully definitive statement that I find extremely hard to understand. Are you sure you're talking about the same Germany that is a driving industrial force?



Actually, since you just said that "Germans are the best people" just a couple of lines ago, that makes you a racist by definition. I generally find racism at its purest sense a loathsome and despicable persuasion and tendency, but if you have a positive spin on it I'd be more than interested to hear it.

Oh, and yes, many-bodies can deny that Germany had its best time during Hitler's rule, not least a good portion of the Germans themselves.



Now those are excellent examples. Unfortunately, it's a long discussion that will take us outside the realm of this topic and into some serious philosophical debate that I'm not ready for. And, I suspect, neither are you.



Hitler is and will probably always be fully recognized in history, my good man. Recognized as what, that's up for personal interpretation. I don't think there's such a conspiracy as the one you hint at, but I suspect that, if such a one did exist, the conspirators would be prudent to be afraid!!


Have a good day, fermin. I hope, should Nazism comes back in your life, that you're either Aryan or that you find some way to convince the SS that you are

 

 

 

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Your answer is self-contradictory too... I understand you because I imagine that you were educated in the "occidental world" where Hitler is considerated an monster...

But Why George Bush isnīt considerated an monster, too? why?????????

You said that the industrial, education and belic growth is not all...Well then What is it all? United States is a power nation because their educational, industrial and belic system are the worldīs best...

Also without Hitler Germany would be and Third-World country...The country have lost all the principles that had when Hitler gave to the people...Proof of that is the actual minister which is a joke if you comparate with Hitler...

What I am trying to say is donīt fall in the occidental opinion...In America Fidel Castro is a monster, Why? In Egypt somebody is a monster but Ask yourself Why??

If all the people would have the same point of reference...This would be a list of Monsters...

George Bush
Ronald Reagan
George Washington
The Quenn Isabel
Fidel Castro
Adolf Hitler
Osama Bin Laden
Saddam Husseim
Others....

Well can you say me that Iīm wrong?

Regards.

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Why would I? Believe me, it's not my intention to make you wrong or make myself right. I'm simply talking with you, one human to another :-)



Actually, I was educated in a country that's been ruled by tyrants for as long as anybody can remember. In fact, one of its recent presidents has been labeled "Hitler of the Nile." In fact, since most everyone in Egypt hates Jewish and Israeli people because of their religious difference, I live in a country that in some ways, although extremely few and never explicit, considers Hitler a good-doer.



He is considered a monster by many, myself included.



I tried to give you some examples of what I think is important in addition to economic, industrial and military growth. By the way, what does "belic" mean? I tried looking it up but I couldn't find it.



I would like to rephrase this piece of advice into this: don't blindly agree or disagree with anything until you consciously understand why why you're agreeing or disagreeing. How does that sound?

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Firstly, by the end of Hitler's tenure as German Fuhrer the country was left in absolute ruins by the reparations (around Ģ6, 600m) it was forced to pay other countries following the second world war. The country was divided into East and West for 30 years as the epicentre of the Cold War. So Hitler certainly didn't leave the country in a very good state....

As for during his reign, there is a lot of evidence to suggest that Hitler was extremely popular in German, after all he did win the popular vote in what could loosely be defined as 'democracy' - though there are the obvious allegations of scare campaigns and the like. Hitler did create a lot of jobs and almost unarguably increased the standard of living in Germany - for 'Ayran' German citizens at least - but Hitler was building a wartime economy. Let's not forget millions of Jews, Gypsies, Gays and the Disabled were forced to flee Germany and the surrounding countries as World War II raged on.

Thirdly, Germany is now the worlds largest exporter (surpassing even the USA and China) and arguably NO country has recovered quicker, or better, from WWII than Germany and it is now one of the strongest economies in the world and the heart of the Eurozone.

And finally, your comparisons between the likes of George Bush, Tony Blair and Usama Bin Ladin, Saddam Hussein are ones to which their is certainly some weight behind. The International condemned the war in Iraq with almost as much vigour as they condemned the 9/11 attacks. Bush will remain the quintessential example of a 'Western war criminal' for the war on terror based on the premise of WMDs it later emerged they didn't have, and all arguably in the guise of protecting US interest in the Middle East - particularly regarding their oil interests. The fact Usama Bin Ladin is a terrorist and should be bought to justice is undeniable.



You do raise some interesting points, however, my only criticism would be in that you do it in a way that seems to suggest you condone the Nazi era of German as well as global terrorist and terrorism.

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i don't get how to quote but.....


I would like to rephrase this piece of advice into this: don't blindly agree or disagree with anything until you consciously understand why why you're agreeing or disagreeing. How does that sound?



Exactly! I would just urge everyone to think critically about what your told in the media, especially in the Western world. DO NOT BLINDLY BELIEVE!

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You are incredible guys...But I understand you because you have a contaminated point of reference to see the world history...

Open your minds, analize the situation without remembering the "Western" version of the history...Itīs not truth all the time.

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Your the incredible one. I hate people who oppose anything that the West says on the very grounds that the West has said it. It's self defeating.

But ultimately I'm not an idiot. I think critically about everything I get taught at school or university as well as what I read or see in the media. I'm as sceptical as the next person. But my scepticism does not induce neo-Nazism, Holocaust denial or the advocation of world terrorists.

If you think the Nazis and Osama bin Laden were/are good people, then it is TRULY you who needs to open your mind and analyse. I'm not saying George Bush is perfect, far from it, I think he's a war criminal, but just because I think that doesn't mean I have to sympathise with terrorists either. I would never condone either theirs or the Nazis actions.

Can I ask where your from fermin? Do you happen to be German by any chance...?

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What are you promoting here (at the OP), that the German people are great or that NAZI's were great. It seems to me that your arguments are kind of for the former, but you have it confused with the later. It is impossible for any rational person to conclude anything other than, Nazi'z, both modern historic, and all that Nazism stands for is built out of fear and hate, which ultimately lead to the deaths of millions of innocent people labeled as sub human. And while the world focuses on the anti semetic nature of the Nazi's, it was not just the Jews who were slaughtered, there were more Russians killed by the Nazi's than Jews, as they too were labeled sub human and were to be exterminated as well, the only reason why they do not make the front pages of history is because the Russians were not funneled through death camps like the Jews were, the Russians were raped and killed in their farms, houses and cities by Jo Average German soldier, not by Mendals brain washed special units.

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Russia lost the most lives in WWII but I don't believe the Russians were systematically singled out in the same way the Jews were.

People all too frequently associate Nazism purely with their racial and anti-semitic policies.

For example in 1933 the Nazi's introduced what were, at the time, pioneering animal rights legislation. They also had a strong anti-tobacco campaign and very good healthcare systems. The Nazis also famously created Volkswagen ( the peoples car) - a car that every German citizen was supposed to be able to afford.

As with virtually any government, there were pros and cons. For me, and I don't think it would be an overstatement to say the majority of the world, the Nazis cons far outweigh their pros.

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