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i thought the name of googles browser was planned to be called chrome OS hence why they made their own browser, which in my opinion is not very good simply because it works really fast at first then gets hit by a DNA ray and is turned from a cheetah to a leggless tortoise so would the same thing happen to their operating system?this will be one of those operating systems which are copies of unix, linux and more they are all the exact same OS with a different name....
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mexLabs
Lets have a sneak peek into the future of desktop computing. Imagine ur browser window being turned up into a desktop of it own, with sub-windows for other stuffs like chatting, browsing, office programs etc...But these things will not be bothering ur hardware resources much(infact not even little). Well such kind of online OS will be machine independent too. All u need is a gadget to connect to net, a screen and a keyboard.


Just because net is in fashion these days and that this idea is sounding very great and innovative, doesnt mean that this can replace the Windows. Even small kids can write software for any purpose these days. But imagine such kind of product being carried on a billion-dollar budget at a place nobody is certain about. Yes i m talking about the very much speculated mythical Google PC that's allegedly being secretly developed in Silicon Valley—or in China or on a Ukrainian IRC channel.


It makes sense for Google to develop a Web-based PC. To be clear, a Google PC needn't involve a new gadget like the "thin client" gear of the 1990s. Every computer in the world is capable of running a Web browser. We might not realize it, but we all already have Google PCs.


You could still run Windows on a Google PC; it just wouldn't matter if you did or not. Most Google PC rumors imagine a low-priced, Windows-less, entry-level computer for the Wal-Mart set. That could be part of the plan, but it would just be one more option. Instead of trying to convince every consumer on the planet to buy a new machine, it makes a lot more sense for Google to build a super-service that you could log into from any computer, phone, or television, or car and airplane seatback. You would be able to access your files anywhere by logging in, calling up your desktop, and popping into Google's array of Gmail-like applications for word processing, photo editing, and anything else you can think of.


If we try to analyze the advantages of an online OS then we might end up with the following conclusions:
It could offer more file space, faster searches, guaranteed backups, cheaper software costs, login-from-anywhere portability, and far less home maintenance. Let's skip ahead, though, to the most counterintuitive advantage: Dollar for dollar, network-based computers are faster.


And the most important backdrop is the requirement of a highly efficient network for the people who want to use such a thing.


If this happens for real... then who wudnt mind saving $2000 from being spent on a Windows Vista.

 

 

 


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BitShift
Everyone is so hyped up about this virtual desktop idea, where you can login to your "computer" from anywhere and access all your files and programs.

To me, this does not seem like an entirely feasible idea at the moment. Not due to the lack of technology but in the lack of computer security and even internet speeds.

The amount of data that would have to be streamlined over the internet would grow exponentially per user.

Example: To burn a CD from files from your virtual computer would take alot longer. The average CD size is 700mb or around there.

With internet speeds the way they are today, it would take much longer because your local computer would have to download the files to some cache or something before they could be burned.

Same with saving files. Upload speeds are much slower then download speeds.

The average Road Runner customer probably gets 3mbps download stream which awesome for home use. However upload speeds are usually limited around 400kbps which is much slower.

Trying to send or recieve anything from your remote computer would take much longer.


On top of this security is a big risk. Everyone wants to protect their personal information on their computer, and lots of people have sensitive files that they need to keep for work.

Unless it was a secure connection that was encrypted, which would make downloads/uploads even longer, then there would be risk of someone being able to see your files.


I think the reason Google has not released anything about this is because there are several flaws in the idea, and the flaws are out of their control unless they find away to give everyone faster internet at the same price.

I know VMWare is working on the same kind of idea through a friend of mine who works there. However their implementation of it is in a work environment.
Your company will have a mainframe computer in the building, or several computer that make up a mainframe, and the workstations throughout that building would connect to this mainframe and download their desktops or whatever type of system they work on, however it is done through an internal network so internet speed would not be an issue in this case.


In my opinion, a lot of work, study and new ideas must come into play before we start seeing any signs of this anticipated Google OS.

If anyone has objections to what I've said or anything please say so. There might be some factors I am not aware of or I could be totally wrong about something.

 

 

 


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borlafu
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If we try to analyze the advantages of an online OS then we might end up with the following conclusions:
It could offer more file space, faster searches, guaranteed backups, cheaper software costs, login-from-anywhere portability, and far less home maintenance. Let's skip ahead, though, to the most counterintuitive advantage: Dollar for dollar, network-based computers are faster.


I don't agree with some things you said. Network computing has many advantages, but it's not faster than personal computing at all.

It allows you to access your account or "desktop" from any place, share your documents, and cooperate. It also makes cheaper the client computer but, as BitShift said, Internet as we know it doesn't offers the bandwidth needed to bring this to reality.

In fact, multi-user machines are common on corporative and university LANs, because this networks offer high bandwidths and this way many users can be loged into the mainframe, working and using the services provided by the server instead of the ones offered by their local computer, so it could be minimized to offer only the required for connecting to the mainframe.


PD: Excuse me for my english, I need more practice :S

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Levis
QUOTE(borlafu @ Nov 9 2006, 09:50 PM) *

I don't agree with some things you said. Network computing has many advantages, but it's not faster than personal computing at all.

It allows you to access your account or "desktop" from any place, share your documents, and cooperate. It also makes cheaper the client computer but, as BitShift said, Internet as we know it doesn't offers the bandwidth needed to bring this to reality.

In fact, multi-user machines are common on corporative and university LANs, because this networks offer high bandwidths and this way many users can be loged into the mainframe, working and using the services provided by the server instead of the ones offered by their local computer, so it could be minimized to offer only the required for connecting to the mainframe.
PD: Excuse me for my english, I need more practice :S


I completely agree with you, first off users would need to have a connection using vDSL which can offer a stable connection up to 52MB. To run such a service you wound need a connection of that speed. Upload small files with a 1 to 6 MB connection is okay. But running an application like Microsoft Word or Photoshop, or a burning program will slow you down by 73% stated by some independent research companies. As Borlafu mentioned its quite easy to run such a service. Many companies & schools are switching to such systems to simplify the lives of teachers & workers. Also, what about the servers that Google will run. It’s possible to run a network of 200 computers on a server system but what about millions? Also, what about security and 100% uptime? What about software to OS compatibility? If Google can answer the following question then I’ll switch over, maybe not I like Linux and running my own equipment.

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borlafu
About software compatibility, I'm sure that win32 executables will not work natively on those sistems, but they may me supported with a runtime interpreter or something like that (something like wine on linux).

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beatgammit
I love the idea of an online OS, but as mentioned earlier, this is not feasable. Speed issues, security issues, and whatnot remove the possibility of such an OS. I don't trust my computer to any website, not even Google. I do like the idea of a basic OS with settings and preferences stored on the net. This is just like an expansion of Google or Yahoo! where individual profiles are maintained and each person has their own personalized website. This could be coupled with ideas from Sun Microsystems, who make "workspaces" where a user logs on and specialized data is loaded from the network. If this were expanded, with a basic OS, this idea could be realized.

The new Docs and Spreadsheets by Google is definitely a step in the right direction. Online applications are the future. They are relatively fast if done correctly and greatly increase efficiency by being able to access the same resources anywhere around the world. We can now store documents, music, photos, and bunch of other stuff online that we could not before. I see this expanding to include every imaginable resource, from source code to home videos. Google found a way to profit off its services directly, and since they have been keeping this information safe and secure, I expect other companies to join in.

All in all, an online OS is not feasable, but online accounts are the future.

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borlafu
I agree with what you say about Google Docs and Spreadsheets, it could be considered as an other step to online user PC sessions. Anyway I think that it's implementation is far away from a perfect one, well but that's an other discussion...

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Alegis
What I think, is that Linux needs to get more graphical. I don't believe in this virtual OS. It shows though from my Beta Programs I do like Microsoft programs (as many do but claim otherwise) and Vista is incredible - OS wise.

Online office programs did not replace the standard software ones (writely vs Microsoft office). If not for even something as small, I have no expectations for other systems.

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borlafu
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What I think, is that Linux needs to get more graphical.

This is a bit absurd, and has nothign to do with Google OS...

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I don't believe in this virtual OS.

Is there any non-virual OS? Is any OS phisical or tangible? Every computer program (and an OS is a computer program) is virtual.

Windows Vista is not incredible at all... I've been using the final version ad it is just as windows XP, adding some Mac visual effects and using 780MB of memory just for playing a song on WMP and having 2 explorer windows opened...

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Levis
QUOTE(Alegis @ Nov 22 2006, 02:18 AM) *

What I think, is that Linux needs to get more graphical. I don't believe in this virtual OS. It shows though from my Beta Programs I do like Microsoft programs (as many do but claim otherwise) and Vista is incredible - OS wise.

Online office programs did not replace the standard software ones (writely vs Microsoft office). If not for even something as small, I have no expectations for other systems.


What do you mean more graphics, have you looked at the new KDE desktop? Add that to any distro and your good to go. With the way KDE is going ill be able to play any windows game i want. I can already load CS, Midtown Madness, and at times Flight Simulator X. Though it needs more work, the games function better on linux systems then on windows systems.

I mentioend before that i am against a Goggle OS for advanced users, but for basic users its the best thing in the world. If they come through with such an idea, all they have to do is preload their OS onto a basic system and just require you to go online to use their applications. Once your done with your document, you could either upload it online or download it to a private removalbe flash drive. See most people use their computers to browse the web or type up a document. If thats all they need, then why the heck would they need windows? Also, they wouldnt have problems with virus's or spyware. Especially if google uses a linux distro.

Sorry, i am running late, and don'y have the time to check my spelling and grammer. smile.gif

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grim reaper1666
i thought the name of googles browser was planned to be called chrome OS hence why they made their own browser, which in my opinion is not very good simply because it works really fast at first then gets hit by a DNA ray and is turned from a cheetah to a leggless tortoise so would the same thing happen to their operating system?
this will be one of those operating systems which are copies of unix, linux and more they are all the exact same OS with a different name.

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kpxchunsa
Interesting concept but I don't think it would work with current technology. And personally the security issues with such an OS are enormous.
But then again it is Google, anything is possible right?

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laniczech
google already has cloud os and microsoft also has a version of cloud coming out, cloud computing is going to be something we hear more about in the future, eyeos has the code availabe to download free to put on your own server to host your files and many applications... there will be drawbacks but even those will be overcome in time

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matthewk
I really look forward to this OS. I mean, anything that google produces is really produced well. Their search engine is excellent, and they're applications like gmail and gtalk are great too. I think an OS by them will be what people have always wanted! smile.gif I know I would love to test it out.

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wutske
i've found a very good link about some currently available web-os'es. The link seems to be down atm, but I'll probably get up as soon as possible (I hope tongue.gif ): http://franticindustries.com/blog/2006/12/...stems-reviewed/

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