Merovingian
Sep 2 2008, 09:03 AM
So, what does everyone think about googles' new web browser idea? http://www.google.com/googlebooks/chrome/http://googleblog.blogspot.com/2008/09/fre...on-browser.htmlWill anyone be getting the beta when it's released? Here is what one of my friends thinks of the project (from another forum). He has a BSc & MSc in computer science and information security (we're old uni mates). He usually knows his stuff when it comes to things like this. QUOTE I note that the article linked indicates Google will be using Apple's Webkit rendering engine, rather than Mozilla's Gecko engine. The article also states they'll be using elements of Firefox as well as WebKit, but I wonder what parts of Firefox they'll be using. They state they have developed their own JavaScript interpreter, though personally I think SquirrelFish, another one from the WebKit folks, is more than fast and capable enough. I really hope they're not using any Firefox UI elements, because frankly I despise the Firefox UI, especially on the Mac where Mozilla refuse to use the Apple unified window manager, Aqua, and hence Firefox looks completely out of place on the Mac desktop. I haven't looked at the specifics of this new browser, but one thing that does interest me is sandboxing of tabs. I usually have 5+ tabs or windows open at any one time and a browser crash on one of them takes them all out---a very frustrating experience. I'm interested to see what sort or resource hit there might be to this though, as obviously each tab would be less able to share application memory and thus use more exclusive memory. I'm not sure if this one feature will be enough to make my migrate from Safari though, especially given they'll be running the same renderer.
My opinion (for the interested) of the Webkit and SquirrelFish engines can be found here. He is also a BIG apple fan!
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toby
Sep 2 2008, 10:13 AM
Google using WebKit is probably the most half-assed thing they've done. Imo Presto (Opera) > webkit > *. Gecko and Trident aren't as far apart as ff users think.
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Quatrux
Sep 2 2008, 09:54 PM
Well, I first though they used their own engine, I didn't read anything on it, read the speed results with other browsers, thought oh, how cool, read further, so it just was webkit engine, I like webkit, so they just created a nice looking GUI for it on Windows, really great, it's much better to use it than Safari on Windows.. even thought I would have liked to see Swift browser using Webkit on Windows, but seems it won't happen or it will take a lot of time. In my opinion, because Chrome is very light, it is really great for most of users who just like to browse the Internet, simply as that, it's fast and looks good.  it's webkit, I really like that they didn't use gecko. 
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FirefoxRocks
Sep 2 2008, 10:37 PM
I really wish they have used Gecko, even with the minor bugs and stuff in it. WebKit isn't bad or anything, but I still prefer Gecko. I'm not in Windows right now so I can't try the software yet, but it looks really good. I was reading the online press conference thing and they introduce a lot of features that are similar to other browsers and an advanced JavaScript engine called V8. Hopefully this won't reduce Firefox/Safari market share by too much, and will help bring down IE.
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shotgun
Sep 3 2008, 12:34 AM
First Impressions: -Very quick to install and do not have to answer any questions in doing so. -The startup is extremely fast. -The interface is extremely simple, with the right and necessary to navigate sites. -The browser allows import your bookmarks, search engines, the key history from Firefox and Internet Explorer. -I visited nearly all Google services, Google Maps, YouTube, Gmail, etc… and have noticed an increase in speed as well. However, on several occasions we became stuck on Gmail. -By default, if you enter a search in the address bar, you Chrome strip results from Google, but you can change it to any other form. -The version for Mac OS X is not good(not yet ready). -It has a spellchecker very fast and like FireFox, you underlined in red with the words mistakes. Unfortunately you do not detect the language of writing. ------------- OS:Windows Vista Ultimate Sp1 MD:Asus P5N-E CPU:2.40GHz/Intel Quad Core Q6600 RAM:Corsair Dual Channel 4GB 800Mhz VC:XFX GeForce 9800 GTX/512MB
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FirefoxRocks
Sep 3 2008, 02:18 AM
What I noticed: - Quick installation; a bit concerned about Privacy Policy
- Startup is quite fast
- Interface too simple; took a while to find File and Tools menus
- Was not presented the option to import bookmarks and settings from Internet Explorer 8 or Opera 9; only Firefox
- Noticeably speed increase in GMail and several Wikipedia pages
- SVG <object>s are not displayed for some reason
Where is the Open command? Waiting for Linux version to be released! I'm using Windows Vista Home Premium SP1, Aero disabled with few software installed. I have a Intel Core 2 Duo processor/4GB RAM and it seems quite fast so far. I haven't tried opening tons of tabs yet though. I still haven't found the "Mozilla Prism" feature though, where the site is launched like an app. (e.g. GMail, Facebook, etc).
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xboxrulz
Sep 3 2008, 04:48 AM
I wish Webkit was used by more people because I think Webkit is one of the best rendering engine when it comes to speed. However, not a lot of websites are compatible with it unfortunately. xboxrulz
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skedad
Sep 3 2008, 07:18 AM
I am only able to do basic internet here at work, or else I would so be trying to install the new browser. Once I get a chance to get home and install, then I will have to put more on this posting. I am a huge fan of Firefox, but I also believe that if Google Chrome is the next best thing... then I am sure I will be trying it... I just think that Explorer was the way to go... probably at the time the only way... and then Firefox came along... Everything has to evolve, and I plan on trying the new Google browser. Good topic... at least I think so. Will get back to it when I can install and then I will critique. - skedad -
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xboxrulz
Sep 3 2008, 07:52 PM
I have since wrote a small quick review of the web browser: http://www.kwokinator.com/node/32Overall, I'm actually quite impressed with the browser. It's quick, responsive and the rendering engine is only giving me only a small amount of issues with TinyMCE's pop up window. Other than that there's really no problem. Although, I have to admit that I'm disappointed that they only released a Windows release and that the Mac and Linux release is not out yet. Once the Linux release comes out, I bet it's like the first "broad" release of a WebKit browser on the Linux platform since Konqueror doesn't count due to the fact that it still uses KHTML and not WebKit (understandable that WebKit's genesis came from KHTML, no real point having both rendering engine on the same machine). xboxrulz
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sparkx
Sep 3 2008, 11:47 PM
I’ll give it a try but you can't tell much with 10 minutes of messing around. I am looking for a long term browser not just a small thing that doesn't even load JavaScript. I use Opera and I like its features and speed, but I am always up for trying new things. The download was extremely fast but the installer has been initializing for a few minutes now... The screenshots look good and the very small size just adds to it. I just wish the installer would load already lol... Using Windows XP (That’s probably the problem) From what you have seen would you say it is better then Opera or should I just stick with what works? Sparkx
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Unknown_99
May 26 2009, 06:23 PM
Google Chrome didn't make much difference among my computer. The only difference between this and firefox is the clean look. Actually it looks to clean that its plain xD probably why it loads so much faster than firefox when the file is executed. However, I'll stick with the Firefox as I have heard some concerns with the Google Chrome that it doesn't load some pages properly. Well try it and see for yourself if its a better or recommended browser.
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Jeigh
Mar 24 2009, 06:11 PM
It's been a long time since I posted in here so I thought I would give an update. Chrome has completely taken over as my primary web browser. Things just feel snappier and smoother when I'm using it. I fully understand it has limits and firefox does some things better, but that isn't enough to change my opinion. When I'm using chrome it just feels like more things go more smoothly for me and I can put less effort into thinking about the browser and more into the actual browsing. Maybe it just hits all my personal marks for the GUI, or maybe it's just smoother overall. Who knows. My main concern currently is some of the webpages I develope for work don't format 100% properly in it because theya re quite complex web applications. But they are still far from unusable in it and the last update actually fixed alot of it so its on the right track. Otherwise most sites render fine for me still after considerable daily use so I have very few complaints with the browser as a whole. My only real hope so far is that they fix some of the zoom behaviour. I like browsing with my laptop extended out sometimes on my knees or whatnot making some sites hard to read so I flick the zoom up but in chrome they dont seem to zoom as nicely as in Opera for example. Not overly important but something I'm still hoping they update. Otherwise, chrome still gives me less headaches then other browsers do so it's currently my regular browser of choice.
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Nabb
Mar 8 2009, 02:33 AM
QUOTE (butterphingerz @ Mar 8 2009, 08:54 AM)  I like it. It's noticably quicker than firefox on starting up. Firefox takes about 15 secs to start its so annoying. And Chrome when it starts has pictures of the sites you visit most often and you can just click on them. But I dont like the layout. There isnt a bookmark button or print button. You just click on this thing in the corner and it gives you some different things, very poorly organized. Firefox should not take 15 seconds to boot, unless you have a large number of addons installed, or are trying to start it up while opening a heap of other programs. It is possible to prefetch Firefox to make it load faster. As for print and bookmark buttons in Chrome, I would assume that these are omitted because it is much faster to hit ctrl-p or ctrl-d respectively. If you really need a print button, you could bookmark the following javascript snippet: CODE javascript:window.print() and click on it when you want to print.
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butterphingerz
Mar 7 2009, 09:54 PM
I like it. It's noticably quicker than firefox on starting up. Firefox takes about 15 secs to start its so annoying. And Chrome when it starts has pictures of the sites you visit most often and you can just click on them. But I dont like the layout. There isnt a bookmark button or print button. You just click on this thing in the corner and it gives you some different things, very poorly organized.
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empirebux
Oct 5 2008, 11:15 AM
Since yesterday, when I registered in this forum I devide to try a new Brownser Chrome , I thought we should not test the browser or Google.On the one hand, seemed interesting, now that Google has shown when the subject is excellent for web applications; secondly, is it is worth testing the first beta of a browser? But finally I came to the conclusion that we should try it, yes.It was what I did. When the launch of a web browser appears in news, something that is at least "curious", is happening! When you start Google Chrome for the first time, he explains on its system of "save" the sites more accessible for easy revisitação later; something inspired - not to say anything else - the Opera.This feature is really useful and the developers of Google Chrome did well to follow the good example of the Opera. Thx ... =)
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