Shooting Star Haven
Nov 26 2005, 08:33 PM
| | Looking past the low prices, eBay is a marketing based trap. Some people might wonder why the heck would anyone sell prices that low? I mean, $0.01 cents? Some items are reserved. That means if you don't bid up to a set price not displayed, then the vender has the right to not sell you their garbage. That makes some feel jipped. And if you ever manage to get a good deal on something (like a computer), you have to deal with shipping charges. Some sellers overcharge their shipping prices. I know people that do so. And if you're really unlucky, you might end up with a broken computer. And with the no refunds, the only thing you have to fight back with is giving bad feedback, which nobody ever looks at nowadays.
EBay sucks! If you shop there long enough, you'll probably get cheated one day. Instead, I recommend Amazon.com. Stuff there is really cheap! I buy books there often. Even the used books look new! Check it out. You might find something you'll like. |
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akijikan
Nov 26 2005, 09:02 PM
Wow...I don't know where to start. You obviously don't have the mind to think for yourself! If you don't want to get cheated on eBay, deal with users who have good feedback and you can look at the shipping charges before you bid, so you know what you're getting into. You can also see if an item has a reserve or not before you bid. If you see an item has a reserve and you don't like that, don't bid, how is that getting jipped? Everybody who sells on ebay pads their shipping charges. I do. It's because I'm going to be paid for the time and materials I spend on shipping, not just whatever the place charges me to move it. But like I said, shipping charges are displayed before you even bid, so its not like some big secret. As for faulty, DOA, or broken products, that's why you pay for shipping insurance and deal with trustworthy sellers. You say no one looks at feedback, but that's obviously just you, since you seem to be in the minority of people that have bad transactions on ebay. Maybe if you did look at it you wouldn't have such bad transactions. Feedback is also not your only recourse. You report a seller to ebay and they usually face suspension and more often closure of their accounts. For sellers, if you get a non-paying-bidder than eBay will even refund all your listing-fees. For buyers, pay through pay-pal because all transactions through them are guaranteed and pay-pal will refund you your money if something is wrong. Combine that with the fact that there is almost no one on eBay who doesn't accept pay-pal and you have a fairly nice system. More often than not, any reputable sellers DO offer refunds. I do, but no one ever asks for them since I take the time and care to make my transactions right. And you are falling prey to outright deception if you think Amazon has low prices. Give me a list of the top 100 items sold on Amazon.com and 9/10 can be found somewhere else online (and places other than ebay) for lower prices. Please think things out before you go attacking something you obviously don't know how to use. It's not a poor product on ebay's fault, it's a half-hearted approach to it on your fault. Read through ebay's help section and you would have found everything I've told you. If it's so crappy, then why does everyone use it? I also forgot to add, don't call everyone else stupid because you don't know how to use something. I think anyone who reads what you said and what I said will see whose actions could be considered "stupid".
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cyborgxxi
Nov 27 2005, 04:50 PM
Good post, Akijikan. Just like he said, you have to look at the information and data that is already shown there. If it's not obvious or it's hidden somewhere, then you can call it some sort of scam. Not "everyone" uses it, just many people. Millions of people. I don't use it because my parents think that inputting their credit card info to Internet pages are not safe. Well, yes it is unsafe but YOU ARE ENTERING IT INTO SECURE HTTP SITES!!! Bah, they don't understand what I'm trying to tell them. But it's okay, I understand how they feel. I want to use Ebay sometime too. And I wonder if I should start selling stuff!! Like... err... I don't know. I don't have anything to sell  Hahaha!! Here is what I have to say though: Ebay does not suck Period.
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Sarah81
Nov 28 2005, 12:28 PM
QUOTE(Shooting Star Haven @ Nov 26 2005, 03:33 PM) Looking past the low prices, eBay is a marketing based trap. Some people might wonder why the heck would anyone sell prices that low? I mean, $0.01 cents? Some items are reserved. That means if you don't bid up to a set price not displayed, then the vender has the right to not sell you their garbage. That makes some feel jipped. And if you ever manage to get a good deal on something (like a computer), you have to deal with shipping charges. Some sellers overcharge their shipping prices. I know people that do so. And if you're really unlucky, you might end up with a broken computer. And with the no refunds, the only thing you have to fight back with is giving bad feedback, which nobody ever looks at nowadays. EBay sucks! If you shop there long enough, you'll probably get cheated one day. Instead, I recommend Amazon.com. Stuff there is really cheap! I buy books there often. Even the used books look new! Check it out. You might find something you'll like. 1. Each eBay listing indicates whether or not there is a reserve to be met on that particular auction. If a potential bidder can't be bothered to look before he/or she places (and then confirms) a bid, that's his/her problem. 2. The shipping charges are given up front with the rest of the listing. If a bidder doesn't want to pay 30 bucks in shipping charges when the merchandise will really only cost the seller 25 bucks to put into the mail, then I guess that bidder should look at a different listing. 3. PayPal offers buyer protection, as does eBay. PayPal will reverse charges if there's a problem; eBay offers complaint resolution in addition to the feedback thing that you complain about. My point is just that, if a buyer is careful and pays attention to what he or she is doing, then there are some pretty good deals on eBay. Yes, there's a bunch of junk, but you'll find that no matter where you go on OR off-line. And while there are plenty of crooks and con artists using the site, there are also quite a few good or even outstanding sellers and buyers.
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hatim
Nov 28 2005, 06:51 PM
the thing is what ever kind of bidding system you have ..you ll always have the problem of bad seller and damaged goods fraud etc. You just cant make it go away. May be in a system where peoples ids are tied into the system...lets say a person's international unique id tied to a online business consortium databse..which lets any seller buyer verify things about the others. for example ..if i were to buy books from two similar buyers ..every thing similar down to geographic location ...condition ..shipping warrenty ..may be i can look up on how much profits or losses were posted by those sellers..and help the less financially person out..remember we are dealing people here.. i know this is just impossible...but it never hurts to dream 
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HTML_Guru
Nov 28 2005, 09:45 PM
While I like to browse eBay every now and then (and by that, I mean it strictly; I've reviewed the eBay web pages, oh, no more than 3, 4 times), but I have never bought anything, and I really don't care for it. Not that I dislike eBay itself, I just could care less for the whole idea of online bidding. Hell, I've barely been to Amazon.com as well! I am really not interested very much in online shopping, I suppose. Who knows; maybe I'll come around... become one of those eBay junkies, eh?
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akijikan
Dec 3 2005, 04:43 AM
My favorite part about ebay is that you can find expensive electronics for anywhere from 30-150 dollars less than typical retail prices
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Godfazzer
Dec 3 2005, 01:16 PM
It's realy hard to buy on eBay from Ukraine 
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Trippin
Dec 7 2005, 06:59 AM
eBay is my best friend. I've bought my last two cell phones (granted used, but great condition) on there, because i'm not eligible for the lower price offered by my cellular provider. I also bought some computer parts off a website which I didn't feel like dealing with for a refund, (they weren't for my computer.. my mistake) so I sold them on ebay and made money off of them! I also have been keeping an eye on those XBOX 360's... they are selling for WAY more than i would have ever imagined... so i'm going to get on a couple Pre-Order lists for the new Playstation3 and then sell em on ebay. I'm not big into gaming so a PS3 wouldn't really do me much good sitting next to my tv.. cash in the bank would do me alot of good. So i guess that proves another good thing about ebay... you can find rare items not so easily found in your own town.
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cyborgxxi
Dec 9 2005, 03:05 PM
Well, that Xbox 360 issue is something like 'pre-investment' funds or something like that. People are making crazy amounts of money just for selling SUPER ULTRA HIGH DEMAND items!! Yeah, capitalism follows the law of "supply and demand". Something to do with mercantilism and stuff, marketing and economy, etc etc. Anyway, I want to try out Ebay sometimes. I want to get like paintball equipment, maybe some SWAT uniforms ... or even Navy Seal. Man... they look so cool and I wanna wear 'em to school or something. Hahaha! Yes, I have big dreams 
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iGuest
Nov 21 2009, 10:22 PM
Replying to akijikan
"As for faulty, DOA, or broken products, that's why you pay for shipping insurance and deal with trustworthy sellers."
I don't know if you are aware, but Insurance on items through USPS does not cover ebay items. From the horses mouth they have advised me numerous times that when an insurance claim is filed it is filed by you (the seller) they will then ask you for a recipt of what YOU paid for it NOT THE BUYER. They will not refund any of the buyers money if you present a paypal receipt. The only thing you can do is provide delivery confirmation a.K.A (tracking number).
-reply by Lizlmt
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iGuest
Sep 26 2009, 09:27 PM
Where is the Ebay alternative??
Ebay Sucks!
Why isn't there an Ebay alternative?? They're making billions of dollars with a company that really only requires a 12X12 room and some servers. Aren't there any other programmers out there that want a piece of this action?? Ebay was nice in the beginning, but it's become a monopoly. It's great for buyers, yes, but for sellers, especially the smaller ones, it's a nightmare. I find it hard to believe that someone hasn't come forth with a competitive auction site. The biggest problem I see with the current alternatives is no listing fees, which is necessary to weed out the overpriced trash that most of these sites mainly offer. I'm a huge seller on ebay, but my fees are in the $200-$300 range every month, not counting the paypal fees I pay. I tried to sell a microphone last week that I purchased a while back on ebay, only to have it cancelled on top of being told if I sell another "counterfeit" item like that I will be suspended. I had no idea it wasn't original!! I still don't! I contacted the company who makes it and the woman I spoke with said she wouldn't tell me how they knew it was counterfeit, it just was. I was so pissed I slammed my keyboard and smashed it into a thousand pieces! Had I just listed it like the hundred others on there for sale now that are most likely "counterfeit" as well I wouldn't have had a problem, but I had no idea it was! Now one more "mistake" like this will get me suspended and most likely cost me my business, with no alternative site to sell on. I considered starting my own auction site, but I'm terrified of ebay's lawyers coming after me for something like copying the script they use to turn pages or something idiotic like that. I could give 100 similar horror stories I've had to deal with, but I'm as terrified to speak as a Jew in Hitler's Berlin. Ebay has become much too powerful and something needs to be done to stop the madness.
-reply by Steve
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hfbvm
Jul 23 2009, 08:18 PM
I use e-bay to sell things It;s quite easy .Get a pic of the item list it in.Give a min time of 15 days to bid. You will get the real price in a day or two. Go to the super market . get that item from whichever place it is in discount. Send it over after you recieve payment via paypal. Its easy money.
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takerraj
Jul 17 2009, 06:02 AM
I love ebay. I bought a pen drive at ebay, the shopping went smooth and in 1 week I had it. Also I love those coupon codes and discounts that ebay give to their customers. At India, ebay is cool! Before buying anything you have to besmart. You have to see the sellers ratings and much more about seller before you pay him.
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kacaanu
Jul 17 2009, 02:31 AM
Think of Ebay as a flea market, some are sketchy, but they serve their purpose to sell cheap wares. Ebay has that feel of a flea market.
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